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Church and State

When we consider this topic, we really have to think what it is we are trying to say. Do we mean Church and State or State and Church?

Many, if not most, Churches are legal entities known as a 501(c)(3) Non-profit Corporation. There are things this kind of corporation can do and can't do to retain their 501(c)(3) status.

For the sake of this article lets look at what they can't do:

A 501(c)(3) organization may not engage in carrying on propaganda, or otherwise attempting, to influence legislation as a substantial part of its activities. Whether an organization has attempted to influence legislation as a substantial part of its activities is determined based upon all relevant facts and circumstances.

A 501(c)(3) organization legislative activities and political activities are two different things, and are subject to two different sets of rules. The latter is an absolute bar. A 501(c)(3) organization may not participate in, or intervene in (including the publishing or distributing of statements), any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for public office. Whether an organization is engaging in prohibited political campaign activity depends upon all the facts and circumstances in each case. For example, organizations may sponsor debates or forums to educate voters. But if the forum or debate shows a preference for or against a certain candidate, it becomes a prohibited activity

Members of any church can act as individuals to uphold their personal beliefs without actually getting the church entity involved.  This is Americanism. And for a good reason. Historically, corruption, fear and persecution follow when churches get involved in politics, governments and power.

Which naturally leads to the next issue, State and Church. In some places, like the Vatican City, or perhaps Tibet before the Chinese invaded and deposed the Dahlia Lama, The state acting as a church actually works.

Consider though, that the Vatican is made mostly of clergy and that Tibet had a common belief as apposed to the diversity that exists everywhere else.

Almost everywhere in almost every time, from the Aztecs with their blood sacrifices to the Inquisitions that falsely accused the innocent, to the Crusades between those who called each other infidels, to Nazi Germany and their extermination policies, to the current Taliban situation in Afghanistan, whenever a State allows a church to gain political power, the church is hard pressed to let go of that power.

Our own American history are stories of Europeans leaving for religious freedom. Utah was founded because those Americans who believed that God talked to a boy in the woods and that an Angel gave him a book to translate were persecuted so severely, they had to leave the United States to regain religious freedom.

It is ironic that the descendants of those Europeans who came to America for religious freedom became the very thing their ancestors escaped from.

Bottom line, The Church should not get involved in State affairs and The State should not be involved in Church affairs.

But here is the beautiful thing about being an American. As an example:

The government school should not ask or set aside prayer time for children. Conversely the Church should not demand prayer time for children. So you may ask, What about the kid who wants to pray, what about his or her rights?

The answer is simple, as an individual, this child cannot have government violate her right to free speech. The school can not forbid the child from praying because that is protected free speech.

It is a win-win. This is Personal Choice in action.

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